Comments on: We’ve got Phoenix http://blackandwhitecat.blogsome.com/2007/07/02/weve-got-phoenix/ Thu, 03 Dec 2009 19:27:08 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1-alpha by: Administrator http://blackandwhitecat.blogsome.com/2007/07/02/weve-got-phoenix/#comment-20 Thu, 05 Jul 2007 03:04:59 +0100 http://blackandwhitecat.blogsome.com/2007/07/02/weve-got-phoenix/#comment-20 Charlie - I added the Murdoch bit at the end after I'd finished writing and taken a short break. Sometimes that's a good thing to do, sometimes not. In this case I think my last minute addition was a non sequitur, but since that's what I wrote and posted, I'll leave it there. Charlie - I added the Murdoch bit at the end after I’d finished writing and taken a short break. Sometimes that’s a good thing to do, sometimes not. In this case I think my last minute addition was a non sequitur, but since that’s what I wrote and posted, I’ll leave it there.

]]> by: 长舟丫 http://blackandwhitecat.blogsome.com/2007/07/02/weve-got-phoenix/#comment-19 Wed, 04 Jul 2007 15:09:17 +0100 http://blackandwhitecat.blogsome.com/2007/07/02/weve-got-phoenix/#comment-19 I agree THAT strongly. I get dismayed by 1) often silly foreign coverage of China and 2) the outdated sense of cultural isolation (or whatever it is) in China that manifests itself in the "how could a foreigner ever understand China" syndrome. (How could anyone ever understand anything? "Understanding" China's not the point.) I think both of these could be squeezed a bit by a more and more pluralistic mix of voices - both "within country" and without. 世界大同 and all that. Great post, shame I had to subvert the system to get to it :) I agree THAT strongly. I get dismayed by 1) often silly foreign coverage of China and 2) the outdated sense of cultural isolation (or whatever it is) in China that manifests itself in the “how could a foreigner ever understand China” syndrome. (How could anyone ever understand anything? “Understanding” China’s not the point.) I think both of these could be squeezed a bit by a more and more pluralistic mix of voices - both “within country” and without. 世界大同 and all that. Great post, shame I had to subvert the system to get to it :)

]]> by: Charlie http://blackandwhitecat.blogsome.com/2007/07/02/weve-got-phoenix/#comment-18 Mon, 02 Jul 2007 14:21:51 +0100 http://blackandwhitecat.blogsome.com/2007/07/02/weve-got-phoenix/#comment-18 All the output in the Chinese media at the moment stinks of a balancing act - reality on the one hand, control on the other. I guess to those who matter control remains more important at the moment, but this is sure to start changing. I think this is what makes the Slave story so interesting - it's a nice little test case for the central government about how, while the truth hurts, it perhaps doesn't hurt them as much as feared. There haven't been any calls for the overthrow of the CCP - just calls for transparency. The whole Murdoch thing is a bit of a red herring though - like in so many aspects in China change will come from within. All the output in the Chinese media at the moment stinks of a balancing act - reality on the one hand, control on the other.

I guess to those who matter control remains more important at the moment, but this is sure to start changing. I think this is what makes the Slave story so interesting - it’s a nice little test case for the central government about how, while the truth hurts, it perhaps doesn’t hurt them as much as feared. There haven’t been any calls for the overthrow of the CCP - just calls for transparency.

The whole Murdoch thing is a bit of a red herring though - like in so many aspects in China change will come from within.

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